問 我是(shi)一名(ming)機械工人，剛來這(zhe)家公司(si)沒(mei)幾天，還沒(mei)簽合(he)同，想知道：集體(ti)合(he)同與勞動合(he)同有哪些不同？

答 第(di)一(yi)，簽(qian)約主體(ti)(ti)不同(tong)(tong)(tong)。集(ji)(ji)(ji)體(ti)(ti)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)是由(you)職工(gong)代(dai)表與(yu)(yu)用(yong)(yong)人單(dan)位(wei)簽(qian)訂(ding)，而(er)勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)是由(you)勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)者(zhe)(zhe)本人與(yu)(yu)用(yong)(yong)工(gong)單(dan)位(wei)簽(qian)訂(ding)。 第(di)二，簽(qian)訂(ding)程(cheng)序(xu)不同(tong)(tong)(tong)。集(ji)(ji)(ji)體(ti)(ti)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)需由(you)職工(gong)代(dai)表與(yu)(yu)用(yong)(yong)人單(dan)位(wei)先行(xing)協商合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)草案，經(jing)職工(gong)代(dai)表大會(hui)或者(zhe)(zhe)全體(ti)(ti)職工(gong)討論通(tong)過；而(er)勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)由(you)職工(gong)本人與(yu)(yu)用(yong)(yong)工(gong)單(dan)位(wei)直(zhi)接簽(qian)訂(ding)。 第(di)三，生(sheng)效(xiao)(xiao)條件不同(tong)(tong)(tong)。集(ji)(ji)(ji)體(ti)(ti)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)簽(qian)訂(ding)后(hou)應當報送勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)行(xing)政(zheng)(zheng)部門，勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)行(xing)政(zheng)(zheng)部門自收到集(ji)(ji)(ji)體(ti)(ti)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)之日起15日內未提出異(yi)議的(de)，集(ji)(ji)(ji)體(ti)(ti)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)即行(xing)生(sheng)效(xiao)(xiao)；而(er)勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)依(yi)法訂(ding)立即具(ju)有(you)法律約束(shu)力。 第(di)四，效(xiao)(xiao)力所調(diao)整(zheng)的(de)主體(ti)(ti)范圍不同(tong)(tong)(tong)。集(ji)(ji)(ji)體(ti)(ti)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)生(sheng)效(xiao)(xiao)后(hou)，對用(yong)(yong)工(gong)單(dan)位(wei)和單(dan)位(wei)全體(ti)(ti)職工(gong)具(ju)有(you)約束(shu)力；而(er)勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)合(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)(tong)生(sheng)效(xiao)(xiao)后(hou)僅適用(yong)(yong)于職工(gong)本人和用(yong)(yong)工(gong)單(dan)位(wei)。