問 我是一名機(ji)械工人，剛來這家公司(si)沒幾天，還沒簽合同(tong)(tong)，想知道：集體合同(tong)(tong)與勞動合同(tong)(tong)有哪些不同(tong)(tong)？

答 第一，簽(qian)(qian)約(yue)主體(ti)(ti)不(bu)同(tong)(tong)。集體(ti)(ti)合(he)(he)(he)(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)是(shi)由職(zhi)工(gong)(gong)(gong)(gong)代表與用(yong)(yong)(yong)(yong)人單(dan)(dan)位(wei)簽(qian)(qian)訂(ding)(ding)，而(er)勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)合(he)(he)(he)(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)是(shi)由勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)者(zhe)本(ben)人與用(yong)(yong)(yong)(yong)工(gong)(gong)(gong)(gong)單(dan)(dan)位(wei)簽(qian)(qian)訂(ding)(ding)。 第二(er)，簽(qian)(qian)訂(ding)(ding)程(cheng)序(xu)不(bu)同(tong)(tong)。集體(ti)(ti)合(he)(he)(he)(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)需由職(zhi)工(gong)(gong)(gong)(gong)代表與用(yong)(yong)(yong)(yong)人單(dan)(dan)位(wei)先(xian)行協(xie)商(shang)合(he)(he)(he)(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)草案，經職(zhi)工(gong)(gong)(gong)(gong)代表大會或者(zhe)全(quan)體(ti)(ti)職(zhi)工(gong)(gong)(gong)(gong)討論通過；而(er)勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)合(he)(he)(he)(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)由職(zhi)工(gong)(gong)(gong)(gong)本(ben)人與用(yong)(yong)(yong)(yong)工(gong)(gong)(gong)(gong)單(dan)(dan)位(wei)直接簽(qian)(qian)訂(ding)(ding)。 第三，生效(xiao)條件不(bu)同(tong)(tong)。集體(ti)(ti)合(he)(he)(he)(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)簽(qian)(qian)訂(ding)(ding)后(hou)應(ying)當報送勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)行政部(bu)門(men)，勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)行政部(bu)門(men)自收到集體(ti)(ti)合(he)(he)(he)(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)之(zhi)日(ri)起(qi)15日(ri)內未提出異(yi)議的(de)，集體(ti)(ti)合(he)(he)(he)(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)即(ji)行生效(xiao)；而(er)勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)合(he)(he)(he)(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)依法訂(ding)(ding)立即(ji)具有(you)法律約(yue)束力(li)(li)。 第四，效(xiao)力(li)(li)所(suo)調(diao)整的(de)主體(ti)(ti)范圍不(bu)同(tong)(tong)。集體(ti)(ti)合(he)(he)(he)(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)生效(xiao)后(hou)，對用(yong)(yong)(yong)(yong)工(gong)(gong)(gong)(gong)單(dan)(dan)位(wei)和單(dan)(dan)位(wei)全(quan)體(ti)(ti)職(zhi)工(gong)(gong)(gong)(gong)具有(you)約(yue)束力(li)(li)；而(er)勞(lao)(lao)動(dong)(dong)合(he)(he)(he)(he)(he)同(tong)(tong)生效(xiao)后(hou)僅適用(yong)(yong)(yong)(yong)于(yu)職(zhi)工(gong)(gong)(gong)(gong)本(ben)人和用(yong)(yong)(yong)(yong)工(gong)(gong)(gong)(gong)單(dan)(dan)位(wei)。